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lists but the question about the

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fluctuation in the background radiation

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is the current explanation for why that

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galaxies over there yes yes right and

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this one's over here and there was a

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literal conversion experience in 1990

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when the Cobie data was presented at

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that meeting in Florida and they all of

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as you stated randomness is an

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assumption that most scientists just

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take for granted and get you and a few

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others including myself seriously

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question that assumption how is it that

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you have come to that conclusion if you

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can tell us briefly and what

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significance does that have for the

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evolution of the framework that you're

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well first of all quantum randomness has

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been the most controversial kind of

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thing contained in the quantum

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measurement problem since the beginning

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even the founders didn't like it very

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much and yet it works so so very well

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but I was I guess first started thinking

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about this by some physicists the one

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that comes to mind it might not have

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been the first that I read but anyway

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surf and adame Nicholas surf and Chris

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Adami at Caltech wrote a paper about

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this that's been widely ignored and

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there are some other justifications for

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it in purely quantum theory terms so

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that got me started then I started to

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think about it more and look at the

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evidence from sigh for backwards

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causation and for backwards causation

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this suddenly solves the problem so it

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clicked together for me and the more I

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look the more I see evidence that things

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are symmetrical in time preparation

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measurement exactly symmetrical if you

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think about that for a while and I think

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you have a lot of things clear up okay

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unfortunately we're out of time for